This page provides a summary of our experience while debugging with contact formulations in FEBio, using model:

https://simtk.org/websvn/wsvn/openknee/_gen1/src/dbg/contact.feb

-- aerdemir 2010-03-23 21:08:39 Summary for 001.feb - 024.feb:

  1. After many trials (sections 001.feb - 021.feb), the definition of side surfaces in contact descriptions was found to cause problems in resolving contact constraints. This was particularly apparent with auto penalty or high penalty conditions, which seemed to amplify the problem. When penalty was small, e.g. 1 (without auto-penalty), convergence was possible but with visible penetration.
  2. Removal of side surfaces in contact descriptions facilitated convergence and allowed solutions to be obtained with higher penalty values with acceptable penetration (sections 022.feb - 024.feb).
  3. Decreasing computational tolerances allowed larger time steps and faster convergence (024.feb).
  4. Note that femoral cartilage mesh both in contact.feb@34 and contact.feb@36 have unmerged nodes that caused a local region of back surface in cartilage penetrate into bone.
  5. All simulations are conducted at Glenn, an OSC computer using single node with 8 cores.

With contact.feb@34

001.feb

                <contact name= "CART2CART" type="sliding_with_gaps">
                        <laugon>0</laugon>
                        <tolerance>0.1</tolerance>
                        <two_pass>0</two_pass>
                        <penalty>1</penalty>
                        <auto_penalty>0</auto_penalty>

Notes:
------- failed to converge at time : 0.500098
visible penetration

002.feb

                <contact name= "CART2CART" type="facet-to-facet sliding">
                        <laugon>0</laugon>
                        <tolerance>0.1</tolerance>
                        <two_pass>0</two_pass>
                        <penalty>1</penalty>
                        <auto_penalty>0</auto_penalty>

Notes:
------- failed to converge at time : 0.593982
visible penetration

003.feb

                <contact name= "CART2CART" type="sliding2">
                        <laugon>0</laugon>
                        <tolerance>0.1</tolerance>
                        <two_pass>0</two_pass>
                        <penalty>1</penalty>
                        <auto_penalty>0</auto_penalty>

Notes:
------- failed to converge at time : 9.76563e-05
fine-tuning maybe necessary to ensure convergence for a small incrementation

004.feb

                <contact name= "CART2CART" type="sliding_with_gaps">
                        <laugon>0</laugon>
                        <tolerance>0.1</tolerance>
                        <two_pass>1</two_pass>
                        <penalty>1</penalty>
                        <auto_penalty>1</auto_penalty>

Notes:
------- failed to converge at time : 0.246565
no visible penetration, ~1mm compression only, is convergence good enough?

005.feb

                <contact name= "CART2CART" type="facet-to-facet sliding">
                        <laugon>0</laugon>
                        <tolerance>0.1</tolerance>
                        <two_pass>1</two_pass>
                        <penalty>1</penalty>
                        <auto_penalty>1</auto_penalty>

Notes:
------- failed to converge at time : 0.250474
no visible penetration (visible penetration for the t=0.2 for 002.feb), ~1 mm compression only, is convergence good enough?

006.feb

                <contact name= "CART2CART" type="sliding2">
                        <laugon>0</laugon>
                        <tolerance>0.1</tolerance>
                        <two_pass>1</two_pass>
                        <penalty>1</penalty>
                        <auto_penalty>1</auto_penalty>

Notes:
------- failed to converge at time : 9.76563e-05
fine-tuning maybe necessary to ensure convergence for a small incrementation

007.feb

                <contact name= "CART2CART" type="sliding_with_gaps">
                        <laugon>1</laugon>
                        <tolerance>0.1</tolerance>
                        <two_pass>1</two_pass>
                        <penalty>1</penalty>
                        <auto_penalty>1</auto_penalty>

Notes:
------- failed to converge at time : 0.227974
no visible penetration, ~1mm compression only, is convergence good enough?

008.feb

                <contact name= "CART2CART" type="facet-to-facet sliding">
                        <laugon>1</laugon>
                        <tolerance>0.1</tolerance>
                        <two_pass>1</two_pass>
                        <penalty>1</penalty>
                        <auto_penalty>1</auto_penalty>

Notes:
------- failed to converge at time : 0.242585
no visible penetration, ~1mm compression only, is convergence good enough?

009.feb

                <contact name= "CART2CART" type="sliding2">
                        <laugon>1</laugon>
                        <tolerance>0.1</tolerance>
                        <two_pass>1</two_pass>
                        <penalty>1</penalty>
                        <auto_penalty>1</auto_penalty>

Notes:
------- failed to converge at time : 9.76563e-05
fine-tuning maybe necessary to ensure convergence for a small incrementation

010.feb

                <contact name= "CART2CART" type="facet-to-facet sliding">
                        <laugon>0</laugon>
                        <tolerance>0.1</tolerance>
                        <two_pass>1</two_pass>
                        <penalty>1</penalty>
                        <auto_penalty>0</auto_penalty>

Notes:
------- failed to converge at time : 0.419247
visible penetration

011.feb

                <contact name= "CART2CART" type="facet-to-facet sliding">
                        <laugon>0</laugon>
                        <tolerance>0.1</tolerance>
                        <two_pass>0</two_pass>
                        <penalty>1</penalty>
                        <auto_penalty>1</auto_penalty>

Notes:
------- failed to converge at time : 0.360039
visible penetration

012.feb

                <contact name= "CART2CART" type="sliding2">
                        <laugon>0</laugon>
                        <tolerance>0.05</tolerance>
                        <two_pass>1</two_pass>
                        <penalty>11</penalty>
                        <auto_penalty>1</auto_penalty>
                        <symmetric_stiffness>0</symmetric_stiffness>

Notes:
------- failed to converge at time : 9.76563e-05
contact settings are same as c034.feb (verification problem) not convergence tolerances though

013.feb

                <dtol>0.1</dtol>
                <etol>0.01</etol>
                <rtol>0</rtol>
                <lstol>999</lstol>

                <contact name= "CART2CART" type="sliding2">
                        <laugon>0</laugon>
                        <tolerance>0.05</tolerance>
                        <two_pass>1</two_pass>
                        <penalty>11</penalty>
                        <auto_penalty>1</auto_penalty>
                        <symmetric_stiffness>0</symmetric_stiffness>

Notes:
------- failed to converge at time : 9.76563e-05
contact and convergence settings are same as c034.feb (verification problem), units and relative material properties issue?

014.feb

                <dtol>0.1</dtol>
                <etol>0.01</etol>
                <rtol>0</rtol>
                <lstol>999</lstol>

                <contact name= "CART2CART" type="facet-to-facet sliding">
                        <laugon>0</laugon>
                        <tolerance>0.05</tolerance>
                        <two_pass>1</two_pass>
                        <penalty>11</penalty>
                        <auto_penalty>1</auto_penalty>

Notes:
------- failed to converge at time : 0.173776
barely touches.

015.feb

                <dtol>0.1</dtol>
                <etol>0.01</etol>
                <rtol>0</rtol>
                <lstol>999</lstol>

                <contact name= "CART2CART" type="facet-to-facet sliding">
                        <laugon>0</laugon>
                        <tolerance>0.05</tolerance>
                        <two_pass>1</two_pass>
                        <penalty>1</penalty>
                        <auto_penalty>1</auto_penalty>

Notes:
------- failed to converge at time : 0.286513

016.feb

                <dtol>0.1</dtol>
                <etol>0.01</etol>
                <rtol>0</rtol>
                <lstol>999</lstol>

                <contact name= "CART2CART" type="facet-to-facet sliding">
                        <laugon>0</laugon>
                        <tolerance>0.05</tolerance>
                        <two_pass>1</two_pass>
                        <penalty>0.01</penalty>
                        <auto_penalty>1</auto_penalty>

Notes:
------- converged at time : 1
goes through it, no good.

017.feb

                <dtol>0.1</dtol>
                <etol>0.01</etol>
                <rtol>0</rtol>
                <lstol>999</lstol>

                <contact name= "CART2CART" type="sliding2">
                        <laugon>0</laugon>
                        <tolerance>0.05</tolerance>
                        <two_pass>1</two_pass>
                        <penalty>0.001</penalty>
                        <auto_penalty>1</auto_penalty>

Notes:
------- converged at time : 1
goes through it, no good.

018.feb

                <contact name= "CART2CART" type="facet-to-facet sliding">
                        <laugon>0</laugon>
                        <tolerance>0.1</tolerance>
                        <two_pass>1</two_pass>
                        <penalty>10</penalty>
                        <auto_penalty>0</auto_penalty>

Notes:
------- failed to converge at time : 0.286513
similar penetration as 005

019.feb

                <contact name= "CART2CART" type="facet-to-facet sliding">
                        <laugon>1</laugon>
                        <tolerance>0.1</tolerance>
                        <two_pass>1</two_pass>
                        <penalty>1</penalty>
                        <auto_penalty>0</auto_penalty>

Notes:
------- failed to converge at time : 0.400004
visible penetration.

020.feb

                <lstol>999</lstol>

                <contact name= "CART2CART" type="facet-to-facet sliding">
                        <laugon>0</laugon>
                        <tolerance>0.1</tolerance>
                        <two_pass>1</two_pass>
                        <penalty>10</penalty>
                        <auto_penalty>0</auto_penalty>

Notes:
------- failed to converge at time : 0.286513
same as 018.

021.feb

                <dtol>0.1</dtol>

                <contact name= "CART2CART" type="facet-to-facet sliding">
                        <laugon>0</laugon>
                        <tolerance>0.1</tolerance>
                        <two_pass>1</two_pass>
                        <penalty>10</penalty>
                        <auto_penalty>0</auto_penalty>

Notes:
------- failed to converge at time : 0.411666
visible penetration

018d.feb

                <contact name= "CART2CART" type="facet-to-facet sliding">
                        <laugon>0</laugon>
                        <tolerance>0.1</tolerance>
                        <two_pass>1</two_pass>
                        <penalty>10</penalty>
                        <auto_penalty>0</auto_penalty>

Notes:
------- failed to converge at time : 0.286513
similar penetration as 005
In debug mode, it appears that defining side faces may cause contact definition discrepancies.
Removal of side surfaces from contact interaction definitions are warranted.

With contact.feb@36

AFTER SIDE FACES AT CONTACT SURFACES WERE REMOVED AND SETTINGS REFLECTED 018.feb:

022.feb

Same as contact.feb@36

                <contact name= "CART2CART" type="facet-to-facet sliding">
                        <laugon>0</laugon>
                        <tolerance>0.1</tolerance>
                        <two_pass>1</two_pass>
                        <penalty>10</penalty>
                        <auto_penalty>0</auto_penalty>

Notes:
------- failed to converge at time : 0.400051
visible penetration but convergance rate improved.

023.feb

                <contact name= "CART2CART" type="facet-to-facet sliding">
                        <laugon>0</laugon>
                        <tolerance>0.1</tolerance>
                        <two_pass>1</two_pass>
                        <penalty>100</penalty>
                        <auto_penalty>0</auto_penalty>

Notes:
------- failed to converge at time : 0.399434
no visible penetration

024.feb

                <dtol>0.1</dtol>
                <lstol>999</lstol>

                <contact name= "CART2CART" type="facet-to-facet sliding">
                        <laugon>0</laugon>
                        <tolerance>0.1</tolerance>
                        <two_pass>1</two_pass>
                        <penalty>100</penalty>
                        <auto_penalty>0</auto_penalty>

Notes:
------- failed to converge at time : 0.555145
no visible penetration

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