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  * TBD   * Snehal gave a high level overview of the project for the two first-time attendees of the Open Knees meeting (Emily and Katie, see attendee list above).
  * Jason covered his progress for uploading the scripts related to patella registration. The sphere fitting algorithm will include the source code licensing (same as Open Knees). Other scripts (e.g. singular value decomposition) will also be uploaded.
  * Jason also updated the picture for the patella registration hardware. The task also stated to “update the extensor mechanism” description though this was unclear as to the specific task desired. It was decided Tara and Jason will update the description of the “clamp” used to secure the quadriceps tendon to the actuator.
  * Snehal covered the tissue testing room preparation. We are waiting on the eye wash station, which is one of the last items before the BioMomentum robot can be moved into the room.
  * Snehal also updated the group on the tissue testing progress. Elvis prepared the tensile samples last week along with Snehal's help. The ligament, meniscus and cartilage tensile tests are nearing completion. Snehal will provide a summary of the data for ligament testing in the upcoming weeks.
  * Tony Shawan (prototype core manager) has not completed the tall bath with flat walls for tissue testing. Snehal was told this will be completed this week.
  * Snehal clarified the tissue harvesting description in the specimen preparation page. The vibratome was moved into the new space.
  * Related to Elvis's tissue testing needs, the BioRobotics Core will be testing using the large robot over the next two days. Elvis may need to isolate the robot from any inadvertent influence from the neighboring tests (e.g. taping off the area to limit potential bumping from the testing).
  * The thickness measurement test problem has not been completed but Snehal will likely start that today.
  * Martin (from BioMomentum) replied to Snehal's latest email. The single axis resolution of the load cell may be modifiable as per Martin's suggestion.
  * Video acquisition and the potential to sample at different rates, to accommodate the high strain rate initial response followed by the stress relaxation (fewer data points are needed during stress relaxation) was discussed. One possibility, after stress relaxation tests the specimen could be retested but this time just a ramp load (without stress relaxation) and then a low strain rate loading to obtain the quasi-static response. One issue, this may not be exactly equivalent to the original loading, especially if the preconditioning and the tissue state (water volume) is not in the same state. However,resampling the video data immediately after the test is done and video data is acquired at the maximum capacity seems like the most reliable option.
  * Ahmet covered the meeting he and Craig had with the Stanford group. The post-processing test problem was incorporated. Progress is moving along and they would like to demo this feature at the upcoming World Congress of Biomechanics meeting.
  * Tara uploaded a new image of the Optotrak probe and also sent an email (to Robb and Jason) with picture of the tendon clamp hardware. These pictures will be added to the wiki as well.
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  * TBD   * Ahmet summarized the approach to ligament uniaxial tension testing.
  * One issue is specifying the “zero force” or tarring condition.
  * This value should potentially be specified as a stress value to accommodate different size samples.
  * If strain is used, the initial conditions will be different between samples.
  * We also need to consider the resolution of the transducer as the testing will likely be on the low end of the range.
  * There's also a potential for a phase lag in the data collection. This will be evaluated. As it stands, a minimal stress will be targeted as the preload value, and the corresponding load will be calculated and compared to the capability of the machine.
  * A preconditioning stress will be determined.
  * In the end, if the transducer is not capable of accurately achieving the desired load, it will be increased to the minimum and state that the test was started at the limitation of the machine.
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  * TBD   * Immediate action items were discussed and agreed on.
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  * At the beginning of the meeting, Snehal provided a description of the Open Knee(s) project for the newcomers.   * Robb will add documentation of the “left”, “right” issue for specimen testing and registration. It needs to be clear what frame(s) the data is collected in so that proper interpretation and registration is achieved.
  * Robb updated the group on the new motors for the robot. They should arrive next week.

Recurring Meeting of Cleveland Clinic Core Team

Date: May 20, 2014

Time: 10:30 AM EST

Means: In person meeting

Attendees:

  1. Ahmet Erdemir
  2. Jason Halloran
  3. Snehal Chokhandre
  4. Elvis Danso
  5. Katie Stemmer
  6. Robb Colbrunn
  7. Tara Bonner
  8. Emily Oliver

Agenda:

  1. Discuss immediate action items from the last meeting.
  2. Discuss tissue testing progress.
  3. Decide immediate action items for the next meeting.
  4. Other.

Immediate Action Items:

  • Jason
    • Provide scripts for sphere fitting in the source code repository accommodating their licensing terms.
    • Reschedule modeling meeting and include Robb for transformation of experimentation data to modeling coordinate systems.
  • Jason and Tara
    • Fix specimen preparation page to recover deleted sections.
    • Evaluate and amend extensor mechanism preparation section.
  • Snehal
    • Provide preliminary tissue testing raw data for review.
    • Conduct thickness measurements using a rubber band as a test problem.
  • Robb
    • Provide document on transformation of robotics data from "right knee abstraction" to "physical representation"

Notes:

  1. Discuss immediate action items from the last meeting.
    • Snehal gave a high level overview of the project for the two first-time attendees of the Open Knees meeting (Emily and Katie, see attendee list above).
    • Jason covered his progress for uploading the scripts related to patella registration. The sphere fitting algorithm will include the source code licensing (same as Open Knees). Other scripts (e.g. singular value decomposition) will also be uploaded.
    • Jason also updated the picture for the patella registration hardware. The task also stated to “update the extensor mechanism” description though this was unclear as to the specific task desired. It was decided Tara and Jason will update the description of the “clamp” used to secure the quadriceps tendon to the actuator.
    • Snehal covered the tissue testing room preparation. We are waiting on the eye wash station, which is one of the last items before the BioMomentum robot can be moved into the room.

    • Snehal also updated the group on the tissue testing progress. Elvis prepared the tensile samples last week along with Snehal's help. The ligament, meniscus and cartilage tensile tests are nearing completion. Snehal will provide a summary of the data for ligament testing in the upcoming weeks.
    • Tony Shawan (prototype core manager) has not completed the tall bath with flat walls for tissue testing. Snehal was told this will be completed this week.
    • Snehal clarified the tissue harvesting description in the specimen preparation page. The vibratome was moved into the new space.
    • Related to Elvis's tissue testing needs, the BioRobotics Core will be testing using the large robot over the next two days. Elvis may need to isolate the robot from any inadvertent influence from the neighboring tests (e.g. taping off the area to limit potential bumping from the testing).

    • The thickness measurement test problem has not been completed but Snehal will likely start that today.
    • Martin (from BioMomentum) replied to Snehal's latest email. The single axis resolution of the load cell may be modifiable as per Martin's suggestion.

    • Video acquisition and the potential to sample at different rates, to accommodate the high strain rate initial response followed by the stress relaxation (fewer data points are needed during stress relaxation) was discussed. One possibility, after stress relaxation tests the specimen could be retested but this time just a ramp load (without stress relaxation) and then a low strain rate loading to obtain the quasi-static response. One issue, this may not be exactly equivalent to the original loading, especially if the preconditioning and the tissue state (water volume) is not in the same state. However,resampling the video data immediately after the test is done and video data is acquired at the maximum capacity seems like the most reliable option.
    • Ahmet covered the meeting he and Craig had with the Stanford group. The post-processing test problem was incorporated. Progress is moving along and they would like to demo this feature at the upcoming World Congress of Biomechanics meeting.
    • Tara uploaded a new image of the Optotrak probe and also sent an email (to Robb and Jason) with picture of the tendon clamp hardware. These pictures will be added to the wiki as well.
  2. Discuss tissue testing progress.
    • Ahmet summarized the approach to ligament uniaxial tension testing.
    • One issue is specifying the “zero force” or tarring condition.
    • This value should potentially be specified as a stress value to accommodate different size samples.
    • If strain is used, the initial conditions will be different between samples.
    • We also need to consider the resolution of the transducer as the testing will likely be on the low end of the range.
    • There's also a potential for a phase lag in the data collection. This will be evaluated. As it stands, a minimal stress will be targeted as the preload value, and the corresponding load will be calculated and compared to the capability of the machine.
    • A preconditioning stress will be determined.
    • In the end, if the transducer is not capable of accurately achieving the desired load, it will be increased to the minimum and state that the test was started at the limitation of the machine.
  3. Decide immediate action items for the next meeting.
    • Immediate action items were discussed and agreed on.
  4. Other.
    • Robb will add documentation of the “left”, “right” issue for specimen testing and registration. It needs to be clear what frame(s) the data is collected in so that proper interpretation and registration is achieved.
    • Robb updated the group on the new motors for the robot. They should arrive next week.

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