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This is the discussion page of ["Specifications/ExperimentationAnatomicalImaging"]. Please provide your input in regard to this specification This is the discussion page of [[Specifications/ExperimentationAnatomicalImaging]]. Please provide your input in regard to this specification
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 * by responding to relevant [https://simtk.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=485&t=4996 forum entry], or
 * by sending an e-mail to Ahmet Erdemir, [[MailTo(erdemira@ccf.org)]].
 * by responding to relevant [[https://simtk.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=485&t=4996|forum entry]], or
 * by sending an e-mail to Ahmet Erdemir, <<MailTo(erdemira@ccf.org)>>.
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-- ["aerdemir"] [[DateTime(2014-05-05T12:28:43Z)]] The following information provides insight on various discussions and iterations conducted within the Open Knee(s) team to finalize imaging protocols.

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-- [[aerdemir]] <<DateTime(2014-05-05T12:28:43Z)>> The following information provides insight on various discussions and iterations conducted within the Open Knee(s) team to finalize imaging protocols.

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Grenier JM, Green N, Wessley, MA. Knee MRI. Part 1: basic overview. Clinical Chiropractic, 2004, 7:84-89. [http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1479235404000197# Science Direct Link] Grenier JM, Green N, Wessley, MA. Knee MRI. Part 1: basic overview. Clinical Chiropractic, 2004, 7:84-89. [[http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1479235404000197#|Science Direct Link]]
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Subhas N, Kao A, Freire M, Polster JM, Obuchowski NA, Winalski CS. MRI of the Knee Ligaments and Menisci: Comparison of Isotropic-Resolution 3D and Conventional 2D Fast Spin-Echo Sequences at 3T. American Journal of Roentgenology, 2011, 197:442-450. [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21785092 PubMed Link] Subhas N, Kao A, Freire M, Polster JM, Obuchowski NA, Winalski CS. MRI of the Knee Ligaments and Menisci: Comparison of Isotropic-Resolution 3D and Conventional 2D Fast Spin-Echo Sequences at 3T. American Journal of Roentgenology, 2011, 197:442-450. [[http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21785092|PubMed Link]]
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Stradiotti P, Curti A, Castellazzi G, Zerbi A. Metal-related artifacts in instrumented spine. Techniques for reducing artifacts in CT and MRI: state of the art. European Spine Joural, 2009, 18(Suppl 1):S102-S108. [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2899595/ NCBI Link] Stradiotti P, Curti A, Castellazzi G, Zerbi A. Metal-related artifacts in instrumented spine. Techniques for reducing artifacts in CT and MRI: state of the art. European Spine Joural, 2009, 18(Suppl 1):S102-S108. [[http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2899595/|NCBI Link]]
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[http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3717377/] [[http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3717377/]]
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OAI protocols are from [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3048821/ Peterfy et al. (2008)]. Open Knee(s) image settings do not need to be exactly as in OAI protocols. OAI protocols provide a good starting point to acquire adequate contrast for reconstruction of tissue geometry. Desirable in-plane resolution of images should OAI protocols are from [[http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3048821/|Peterfy et al. (2008)]]. Open Knee(s) image settings do not need to be exactly as in OAI protocols. OAI protocols provide a good starting point to acquire adequate contrast for reconstruction of tissue geometry. Desirable in-plane resolution of images should
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-- ["aerdemir"] [[DateTime(2014-06-03T00:33:10Z)]] A detailed documentation of imaging parameters of protocols from this trial and from previous trials can be found in attachment:CFknee.protocol.xls - information provided by Shannon Donola (Case Imaging Center @ University Hospitals).

-- ["aerdemir"] [[DateTime(2014-03-23T13:25:18Z)]] Scan numbers are based on the order of the imaging as implemented in MRI session. Scans 1 & 2 were localizers.
-- [[aerdemir]] <<DateTime(2014-06-03T00:33:10Z)>> A detailed documentation of imaging parameters of protocols from this trial and from previous trials can be found in [[attachment:CFknee.protocol.xls]] - information provided by Shannon Donola (Case Imaging Center @ University Hospitals).

-- [[aerdemir]] <<DateTime(2014-03-23T13:25:18Z)>> Scan numbers are based on the order of the imaging as implemented in MRI session. Scans 1 & 2 were localizers.
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-- ["hallorj"] [[DateTime(2014-03-04T15:59:15Z)]] add exact protocol names, provided by the UH imaging resource, from the DICOM headers for each sequence below. This should facilitate use of the correct sequence during the imaging sessions. -- [[hallorj]] <<DateTime(2014-03-04T15:59:15Z)>> add exact protocol names, provided by the UH imaging resource, from the DICOM headers for each sequence below. This should facilitate use of the correct sequence during the imaging sessions.
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'''FS:''' Yes (-- ["aerdemir"] [[DateTime(2014-03-10T12:02:30Z)]] I assume WE.) '''FS:''' Yes (-- [[aerdemir]] <<DateTime(2014-03-10T12:02:30Z)>> I assume WE.)
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'''Y-resolution (mm):''' 150/352 --> 0.4261 (-- ["aerdemir"] [[DateTime(2014-03-10T12:02:30Z)]] I took a note of '150/352'. I am not sure what it corresponds to.) '''Y-resolution (mm):''' 150/352 --> 0.4261 (-- [[aerdemir]] <<DateTime(2014-03-10T12:02:30Z)>> I took a note of '150/352'. I am not sure what it corresponds to.)
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-- ["aerdemir"] [[DateTime(2014-03-10T12:26:15Z)]] Based on the results above, should our specimen imaging trial include -- [[aerdemir]] <<DateTime(2014-03-10T12:26:15Z)>> Based on the results above, should our specimen imaging trial include
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   * Contrast is anticipated to look like [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3048821/figure/F4/ this] (Figure 4 of OAI protocols). Also see SEQUENCE 2: DESS-APPROX (see above).    * Contrast is anticipated to look like [[http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3048821/figure/F4/|this]] (Figure 4 of OAI protocols). Also see SEQUENCE 2: DESS-APPROX (see above).
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   * Contrast is anticipated to look like [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3048821/figure/F8/ this] (Figure 8 of OAI protocols, note that OAI protocols are sagittal).    * Contrast is anticipated to look like [[http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3048821/figure/F8/|this]] (Figure 8 of OAI protocols, note that OAI protocols are sagittal).
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-- ["hallorj"] [[DateTime(2013-11-05T15:11:02Z)]] An imaging test session is setup for November 14, 2013 from 1-2:30 pm. Myself and/or Snehal will attend. The BioRobotics Core can provide a knee specimen. If the specimen is currently a whole leg, we'll need to prepare it for imaging. Thawing will have to occur the day before. During the test session, we will look at the metal artifact issue (bring the brass mounting plugs) and image acquisition settings will be tested. I envision starting from the T1 weighted settings we currently use and adding one of the above T2 acquisitions. The T2 set should focus on cartilage while the T1 should be good for the other soft-tissues (ligaments, tendon, meniscus). An email will be sent to Dr. Carl Winalski (a radiologist and member of the advisory board) for feedback on the settings. -- [[hallorj]] <<DateTime(2013-11-05T15:11:02Z)>> An imaging test session is setup for November 14, 2013 from 1-2:30 pm. Myself and/or Snehal will attend. The BioRobotics Core can provide a knee specimen. If the specimen is currently a whole leg, we'll need to prepare it for imaging. Thawing will have to occur the day before. During the test session, we will look at the metal artifact issue (bring the brass mounting plugs) and image acquisition settings will be tested. I envision starting from the T1 weighted settings we currently use and adding one of the above T2 acquisitions. The T2 set should focus on cartilage while the T1 should be good for the other soft-tissues (ligaments, tendon, meniscus). An email will be sent to Dr. Carl Winalski (a radiologist and member of the advisory board) for feedback on the settings.
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-- ["aerdemir"] [[DateTime(2014-02-24T12:19:34Z)]] For each imaging sequence, provide a sample image and the DICOM header as a text file. -- [[aerdemir]] <<DateTime(2014-02-24T12:19:34Z)>> For each imaging sequence, provide a sample image and the DICOM header as a text file.

This is the discussion page of Specifications/ExperimentationAnatomicalImaging. Please provide your input in regard to this specification

  • by editing this page, or
  • by responding to relevant forum entry, or

  • by sending an e-mail to Ahmet Erdemir, <erdemira@ccf.org>.


Comments


-- aerdemir 2014-05-05 12:28:43 The following information provides insight on various discussions and iterations conducted within the Open Knee(s) team to finalize imaging protocols.

General MRI Info

Following is an overview of relevant imaging sequences and their suitability for visualizing different anatomical structures of the knee. Candidate MR sequences and approaches to overcome metal artifact were found in the literature. Some references were focused on specific structure, e.g. cartilage, and may be suitable for semi-automatic (or even automatic) segmentation of that specific structure.

Cartilage: 1) gradient echo, with or without fat suppression, 2) spin echo, with fat suppression

Meniscus: Proton density

Ligaments/tendons: T2-weighted

Grenier JM, Green N, Wessley, MA. Knee MRI. Part 1: basic overview. Clinical Chiropractic, 2004, 7:84-89. Science Direct Link

3D gradient echo: good for cartilage

3D spin echo: good for cartilage, ligaments, meniscus

Subhas N, Kao A, Freire M, Polster JM, Obuchowski NA, Winalski CS. MRI of the Knee Ligaments and Menisci: Comparison of Isotropic-Resolution 3D and Conventional 2D Fast Spin-Echo Sequences at 3T. American Journal of Roentgenology, 2011, 197:442-450. PubMed Link

Techniques for reducing metal artifacts:

Stradiotti P, Curti A, Castellazzi G, Zerbi A. Metal-related artifacts in instrumented spine. Techniques for reducing artifacts in CT and MRI: state of the art. European Spine Joural, 2009, 18(Suppl 1):S102-S108. NCBI Link

An approach for automatic segmentation of cartilage.

In this study, 20 healthy volunteers were used to evaluate the accuracy of an approach for automatic segmentation of cartilage.

A quote from the study outlines their imaging sequences:

"The MR images were acquired using three different sets of parameters. Several parameters were common, with all images acquired in the sagittal plane with a field of view (FOV) 120 mm, slice thickness 1.5 mm, and repetition time (TR) 60 ms. A flip angle of 40° was used on all cases except case 7 which used 30°. Six scans were acquired at 3 T with in-plane spacing 0.23 × 0.23 mm and echo time (TE)7 ms. A birdcage coil was used for 5 of these scans (cases 1, 6, 14, 15, 16) and a head coil was used on case 3. Fourteen scans were acquired at 1.5T using two different extremity array coils. A G.E. coil was used for five of the scans with image matrix with in-plane spacing 0.46 × 0.46 mm, TE5 ms used for four cases (cases 17, 18, 19, 20), while case 7 was acquired with in-plane spacing 0.23 × 0.23 mm, TE3.2 ms, and flip angle 30°. A MEDRAD coil was used for the other nine images with in-plane spacing 0.23 × 0.23 mm, TE 7 ms (cases 2, 5, 8, 10, 12, 13), and 12 ms (cases 4, 9, 11)."

The reference can be found here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3717377/

Some questions:

  1. Is there a trade-off between image resolution, image acquisition (2D or 3D), and the contrast between structures for certain acquisition settings?
  2. What are the best acquisition settings to provide a single image set with good overall delineation of cartilage, meniscus, tendon, ligament, bone boundaries? In the past, we have used the following settings: 3D (isotropic, 0.5 mm), Gradient Echo, T1-weighted

Initial Goal

For each knee, the following set of image sequences will be performed. Coordinate systems for all 3D image sets will be aligned, so that the geometry for the structures of interest can be defined from the appropriate sequence and combined into a single model.

OAI PROTOCOLS

SCAN

SAG 3D DESS WE

SAG 2D MESE

Imaging Date

Plane

Sagittal

Sagittal

FS

WE

No

Matrix (phase)

307

269

Matrix (freq.)

384

384

# of slices

160

21

FOV (mm)

140

120

Slice thickness/gap (mm/mm)

0.7/0

3/0.5

Flip angle (deg.)

25

N/A

TE/TR (ms/ms)

4.7/16.3

10-70(+10)/2700

Bandwidth (Hz/pixel)

185

250

Chemical Shift (pixels)

0

1.8

No. excitations averaged

1

1

ETL

1

1

Phase encode axis

A/P

A/P

Distance factor (%)

0

16

Phase oversampling

0

0

Slice oversampling

10

0

Phase resolution

80

70

Phase partial Fourier (8/8 = 1)

1

0.875

Readout partial Fourier (8/8 = 1)

1

1

Slice partial Fourier (8/8 = 1)

0.75

0.75

X-resolution (mm)

0.365

0.313

Y-resolution (mm)

0.456

0.446

Scan Time (min.)

OAI protocols are from Peterfy et al. (2008). Open Knee(s) image settings do not need to be exactly as in OAI protocols. OAI protocols provide a good starting point to acquire adequate contrast for reconstruction of tissue geometry. Desirable in-plane resolution of images should be less then 0.5 mm and image thickness+gap should be less than 1-1.5 mm. Per Chris Flask (of the imaging facility) MESE sounds like a spin echo acquisition. DESS seems to be a vendor-specific acquisition, basically a T2 weighted image acquisition. His interpretation of T1-ISO, DESS, and MESE are T1-weighted acquisition, T2-weighted acquisition with fat suppression, maybe a proton density weighted acquisition.

All images should be acquired in the same coordinate system to be able to align reconstructed tissue geometries during assembly of full knee geometry. To accomplish this the origin (isocenter) and the axes of the magnet, which is set at the beginning of the session, should not change. In addition, the specimen should not be moved. It should be noted that a pixel-by-pixel alignment of image sets (co-localization) is not necessary.

In a potential publication, the reporting of the imaging (for geometry reconstruction) will sound like:

We acquired 3 image sets from the same cadaver knee specimen. The imaging specifications included a T1-weighted iso protocol (0.5 mm voxel resolution) along with two other protocols OAI settings reported for DESS (sagittal: # in plane resolution, # slice thickness and gap) and MESE (axial: # in plane resolution, # slice thickness and gap). Different image sets were used to reconstruct actual geometries of tissues. As the DICOM coordinate system was the same and the specimen did not move between scans, the geometries are already registered to each other, i.e., they are defined in the same coordinate system. The geometries were then assembled in a computer aided design package to reconstruct the geometric representation of the whole knee.

SEQUENCE 1: T1-ISO

The goal of this imaging protocol is to acquire an isotropic image volume with a voxel size of 0.5 mm x 0.5 mm x 0.5 mm or smaller and with a large field of view inclusive of both tibiofemoral and patellofemoral joints and registration markers. This image set will likely be utilized for geometric reconstruction of registration markers and bones. It may also support geometric reconstruction of other tissue structures.

  • Contrast Type: T1-weighted

  • Scanning Sequence: Gradient Echo (GR)

  • Acquisition Type: 3D (=> isotropic)

  • Resolution: 0.5 mm, isotropic

  • Repetition time (TR): 20 ms

  • Echo time (TE): 4.92 ms

  • Flip angle: 25 degrees

  • Scan Time: Approximately 17 minutes

These settings were extracted from the DICOM header of a previous imaging session (CoBi Core project CBC_0049/01/dat/MRI/knee1?). This protocol has been used to create an isotropic, T1-weighted image set that reasonably represented the structures of interest, namely cartilage, soft-tissue and an outline of the bony anatomy.

MRI_Settings_T1.txt

EXAMPLE IMAGES

Axial:

knee_AXL.png

Sagittal:

knee_SAG.png

Coronal:

knee_COR.png

SEQUENCE 2: DESS-APPROX

The goal of this imaging protocol is to acquire a sagittal plane image set with an in-plane resolution less than 0.5 mm, an out-of-plane resolution less than 1.5 mm and a large enough field of view inclusive of both tibiofemoral and patellofemoral cartilage. This image set will likely be utilized for geometric reconstruction of cartilage. It may also support geometric reconstruction of menisci.

  • Contrast Type: Double-Echo Steady-State (DESS), T1-weighted

  • Scanning Sequence: Gradient Echo (GR)

  • Sequence Variant: SP\OSP

  • Scan Options: SAT1\WE

  • Acquisition Type: 3D

  • Slice Orientation: sagittal

  • Resolution (in-plane): 0.36 x 0.36 mm (sagittal)

  • Slice Thickness: 0.70 mm

  • Repetition time (TR): 16.3 ms?

  • Echo time (TE): 4.78 ms?

  • Number of Averages: 1

  • Imaging Frequency: 123.25643

  • Flip angle: 25 degrees

  • Field of View: 140.0 x 140.0 mm (384 x 384 pixels)

  • Scan Time: 15.28 minutes?

EXAMPLE IMAGE

Sagittal:

DESS_approx_SAG.png

SEQUENCE 3: MESE-APPROX

The goal of this imaging protocol is to acquire an axial plane image set with an in-plane resolution less than 0.5 mm, an out-of-plane resolution less than 1.5 mm and a large enough field of view inclusive of collateral and cruciate ligaments, quadriceps tendon and patellar ligament. This image set will likely be utilized for geometric reconstruction of ligaments. It may also support geometric reconstruction of menisci.

Imaging Trial 5: March 20, 2014

Proposed scans

  1. Obtain a 3D T1-weighted image set with fat suppression.
    • Protocol: t1_fl3d_sag_p2_iso_0.4_fs
      • Plane: 3D
      • Desired resolution: 0.3409 x 0.3409 x 0.7 mm
    Notes: Previously an isotropic image set was collected with 0.5 mm x 0.5 mm x 0.5 mm voxels. For this set may be the voxel size can be made anisotropic with increased resolution in sagittal plane yet decreased resolution out-of-plane. This will be compared with other cartilage imaging modalities that were already collected. It will help us see if we establish the boundaries of the cartilage any better.
  2. Obtain multi-plane MESE type images:
    • Protocol: pd_tse_cor_p2_384
      • Plane 1: Sagittal
      • Desired resolution: 0.3409 x 0.3409 x 3.0 mm thickness (no gap)
    • Protocol: pd_tse_cor_p2_384
      • Plane 2: Axial
      • Desired resolution: 0.3409 x 0.3409 x 3.0 mm thickness (no gap)
    • Protocol: pd_tse_cor_p2_384
      • Plane 3: Coronal
      • Desired resolution: 0.3409 x 0.3409 x 3.0 mm thickness (no gap)
    Notes: Previously collected these image sets in sagittal and axial planes. Acquiring a coronal image set may help inreconstruction of collateral and cruciate ligaments.
  3. Obtain multiple MESE type images with different # of excitations and thickness:
    • Protocol: pd_tse_cor_p2_384
      • Plane: Sagittal
      • Desired resolution: 0.3409 x 0.3409 x 1.0 mm thickness (2 mm gap)
      • # of excitations: 1
    • Protocol: pd_tse_cor_p2_384
      • Plane: Sagittal
      • Desired resolution: 0.3409 x 0.3409 x 1.0 mm thickness (2 mm gap)
      • # of excitations: 3
    Note: With 3 mm thick slices some averaging artifacts are seen. 1 mm thick slices (with 2 mm gap) may look any better. The increased # of excitations may accommodate SNR issues related to thinner slices.

Results

-- aerdemir 2014-06-03 00:33:10 A detailed documentation of imaging parameters of protocols from this trial and from previous trials can be found in CFknee.protocol.xls - information provided by Shannon Donola (Case Imaging Center @ University Hospitals).

-- aerdemir 2014-03-23 13:25:18 Scan numbers are based on the order of the imaging as implemented in MRI session. Scans 1 & 2 were localizers.

SCAN 3

  • Protocol name. pd_tse_axial_p2_384

  • Goal. An axial plane MESE-type scan with approximately 0.35 mm x 0.35 mm x 3 mm (slice thickness)

scan_3_HEADER_03.20.14.txt

pd_tse_axial_p2_384.png

SCAN 4

  • Protocol name. pd_tse_sag_p2_384

  • Goal. A sagittal plane MESE-type scan with approximately 0.35 mm x 0.35 mm x 3 mm (slice thickness)

scan_4_HEADER_03.20.14.txt

pd_tse_sag_p2_384.png

SCAN 5

  • Protocol name. pd_tse_cor_p2_384

  • Goal. A coronal plane MESE-type scan with approximately 0.35 mm x 0.35 mm x 3 mm (slice thickness)

scan_5_HEADER_03.20.14.txt

pd_tse_cor_p2_384.png

SCAN 6

  • Protocol name. pd_tse_sag_1.4mmslice_1avg

  • Goal. A sagittal plane MESE-type scan with approximately 0.35 mm x 0.35 mm x 1.4 mm (slice thickness) + 1.4 mm (gap); number of excitation = 1 (slice thickness is a limiting factor)

scan_6_HEADER_03.20.14.txt

pd_tse_sag_1.4mmslice_1avg.png

SCAN 7

  • Protocol name. pd_tse_sag_1.4mmslice_3avg

  • Goal. A sagittal plane MESE-type scan with approximately 0.35 mm x 0.35 mm x 1.4 mm (slice thickness) + 1.4 mm (gap); number of excitation = 3

scan_7_HEADER_03.20.14.txt

pd_tse_sag_1.4mmslice_3avg.png

SCAN 8

  • Protocol name. t1_fl3d_sag_350x350x700_fs

  • Goal. A 3D T1-weighted image set with fat supression with higher resolution in sagittal plane, approximately 0.35 mm x 0.35 mm x 0.7 mm

scan_8_HEADER_03.20.14.txt

t1_fl3d_sag_350x350x700_fs.png

SCAN 9

  • Protocol name. t1_fl3d_sag_350x350x700

  • Goal. A 3D T1-weighted image set without fat supression with higher resolution in sagittal plane, approximately 0.35 mm x 0.35 mm x 0.7 mm

scan_9_HEADER_03.20.14.txt

t1_fl3d_sag_350x350x700.png


Imaging Trial 4: March 4, 2014

-- hallorj 2014-03-04 15:59:15 add exact protocol names, provided by the UH imaging resource, from the DICOM headers for each sequence below. This should facilitate use of the correct sequence during the imaging sessions.

Attendees: Chris, Shannon (UH); Ahmet, Craig, Snehal (CC)

The goal of this imaging trial was to conduct a full mock-up imaging of a knee specimen including:

  • 2 T1-weighted, isotropic (0.5mm) images (based on CoBi Core's previous protocols)

    • with fat suppression (= WE = Water Excitation)
    • without fat suppression (t1_fl3d_sag_p2_iso_0.5)
  • 2 DESS-type, sagittal plane images (~0.3x0.3x0.7):
    • DESS-APPROX sequence (based on the settings from Nov. 14, 2013)
    • T2 spin echo (suggested by Chris to replicate OAI DESS image contrast).
  • 3 MESE-type, axial plane image sets: (slice thickness = 3mm)
    • MESE (OAI protocols)
    • Turbo Spin Echo (TSE) (to replicate OAI MESE image contrast).

Results

DICOM ORDER #4) T1-ISO WITHOUT FAT SUPPRESION:

T1_iso_HEADER_03.04.14.txt

Series Description: t1_fl3d_sag_p2_iso_0.4_we

Resolution: 0.5 x 0.5 x 0.5 mm

T1_iso_AXL_03.04.14.png T1_iso_SAG_03.04.14.png T1_iso_COR_03.04.14.png

Notes from Imaging Session

This imaging sequence corresponded to Scan 3 of the whole protocol as it was setup in the MRI machine. It was intended to be a T1-weighted isotropic imaging (flash 3D without fat suppression) with 0.5 mm x 0.5 mm x 0.5 mm voxel size. The femur was placed through the bore first (head first). Images are misoriented as it was assumed that the tibia was placed through the bore first during direction setup (feet first). In future imaging sessions, the team needs to ensure that femur goes first and inform the imaging personnel so that appropriate orientation is set up.

Sequence name: t1_fl3d_sag_p2_iso_0.4_we FOV (mm): 240 mm read x 65.8% --> 158 x 158 x 240 TR (ms): 20 TE (ms): 6.01 # of slices: 320 Flip angle (deg.): 25 Bandwidth (Hz/pixel): 210 Chemical Shift (pixels): No. excitations averaged: 1 ETL: 1 Phase encode axis: A/P Distance factor (%): 0 (irrelevant for 3D) Phase oversampling: 0 Slice oversampling: 0 Phase/slice/read resolution: 500 um (?) Slice partial Fourier: 7/8 Phase partial Fourier: 1 (?) Readout partial Fourier: 1 (?) X-resolution (mm): 0.5 Scan time (min.): ~21

DICOM ORDER #5) T1-ISO WITH FAT SUPPRESION:

T1_iso_fs_HEADER_03.04.14.txt

Series Description: t1_fl3d_sag_p2_iso_0.4_fs

Resolution: 0.5 x 0.5 x 0.5 mm

T1_iso_fs_AXL_03.04.14.png T1_iso_fs_SAG_03.04.14.png T1_iso_fs_COR_03.04.14.png

Notes from Imaging Session

This imaging sequence corresponded to Scan 4 of the whole protocol as it was setup in the MRI machine. It was intended to be a T1-weighted isotropic imaging (flash 3D with fat suppression) with 0.5 mm x 0.5 mm x 0.5 mm voxel size. All imaging settings are essentially the same as those of without fat suppression (see immediately above).

Sequence name: t1_fl3d_sag_p2_iso_0.4_fs

DICOM ORDER #6) DESS-TYPE (BASED ON OAI):

DESS-APPROX_HEADER_03.04.14.txt

Series Description: dess_3dsag_we

Resolution: 0.3409 x 0.3409 x 0.7 mm

DESS-APPROX_SAG_03.04.14.png

Notes from Imaging Session

This imaging sequence corresponded to Scan 5 of the whole protocol as it was setup in the MRI machine. It was intended to reproduce DESS imaging protocol from the OAI study. The goal was to obtain a sagittal image set with ~0.35 mm x ~0.35 mm in plane resolution and 0.7 mm image thickness (no gap). Note that this is NOT T2 spin echo, it is as close as it gets to OAI. A T2 spin echo may be brighter in the cartilage.

Sequence name: dess_3dsag_we FS: Yes (-- aerdemir 2014-03-10 12:02:30 I assume WE.) Plane: Sagittal FOV (mm): 240 mm read (H/F) x 62.5% (A/P) --> 240 mm x 150 mm x 150 mm Slice thickness/gap (mm/mm): 0.7/0 TR (ms): 16.5 TE (ms): 5 # of slices: 160 Flip angle (deg.): 25 Bandwidth (Hz/pixel): 187 Chemical Shift (pixels): No. excitations averaged: 1 ETL: 1 Phase encode axis: Distance factor (%): 0 Phase oversampling: 0 Slice oversampling: 20% Phase/slice/read resolution: Slice partial Fourier: 6/8 Phase partial Fourier: Readout partial Fourier: X-resolution (mm): 240/704 --> 0.3409 Y-resolution (mm): 150/352 --> 0.4261 (-- aerdemir 2014-03-10 12:02:30 I took a note of '150/352'. I am not sure what it corresponds to.) Scan time (min.): ~14

DICOM ORDER #7) T1 VIBE (DESS-LIKE CONTRAST AND RESOLUTION):

DESS-type_T1_vibe_HEADER_03.04.14.txt

Series Description: T1_vibe_we_sag_iso_p2_EP

Resolution: 0.3409 x 0.3409 x 0.7 mm

DESS-type_T1_vibe_SAG_03.04.14.png

Notes from Imaging Session

This imaging sequence corresponded to Scan 6 of the whole protocol as it was setup in the MRI machine. It was intended to be a sagittal image set with ~0.35 mm x ~0.35 mm in plane resolution and 0.7 mm image thickness (no gap). Note that this imaging sequence has been previously referred by the team as DESS-APPROX (see sequence 2 of November 14, 2013 trial). It is actually closer to a T1-weighted imaging sequence with fat supression and can be used to replace DESS-type imaging for cartilage reconstruction.

Sequence name: t1_vibe_we_sag_isop2_EP Plane: Sagittal FOV (mm): 240 mm x 62.5% --> 240 mm x 150 mm x 150 mm Slice thickness/gap (mm/mm): 0.7/0 TR (ms): 12 TE (ms): 6.2 # of slices: 240 Flip angle (deg.): 25 Bandwidth (Hz/pixel): 190 Chemical Shift (pixels): No. excitations averaged: 1 ETL: Phase encode axis: Distance factor (%): 0 Phase oversampling: 0 Slice oversampling: 0 Phase/slice/read resolution: Slice partial Fourier: 6/8 Phase partial Fourier: Readout partial Fourier: X-resolution (mm): 240/704 --> 0.3409 Scan time (min.): ~11.5

DICOM ORDER #8) MESE-TYPE TSE 2D, SAGITTAL (BASED ON OAI):

MESE-type_TSE_2D_SAG_HEADER_03.04.14.txt

Series Description: pd_tse_cor_p2_384

Sequence Name: *tse2d1_14

Resolution: 0.3409 x 0.3409 x 3.0 mm

MESE-type_TSE_2D_SAG_03.04.14.png

Notes from Imaging Session

This imaging sequence corresponded to Scan 7 of the whole protocol as it was setup in the MRI machine. It was intended to reproduce MESE imaging protocol from the OAI study. The goal was to obtain a sagittal image set with ~0.35 mm x ~0.35 mm in plane resolution and 3 mm image thickness (no gap).

Sequence name: pd_tse_cor_p2_384 Plane: Sagittal FOV (mm): 240 x 62.5% --> 240 x 150 x 150 Slice thickness/gap (mm/mm): 3/0 TR (ms): 8000 TE (ms): 11 # of slices: 35 Flip angle (deg.): 90 Bandwidth (Hz/pixel): 222 Chemical Shift (pixels): No. excitations averaged: 1 ETL: 14 Phase encode axis: Distance factor (%): 0 Phase oversampling: 0 Slice oversampling: 0 Phase/slice/read resolution: Slice partial Fourier: Phase partial Fourier: Readout partial Fourier: X-resolution (mm): 240/704 --> 0.3409 Scan time (min.): ~4

DICOM ORDER #9) MESE-TYPE TSE 2D, AXIAL:

MESE-type_TSE_2D_AXL_HEADER_03.04.14.txt

Series Description: pd_tse_cor_p2_384

Sequence Name: *tse2d1_14

Resolution: 0.3516 x 0.3516 x 3.0 mm

MESE-type_TSE_2D_AXL_03.04.14.png

Notes from Imaging Session

This imaging sequence corresponded to Scan 8 of the whole protocol as it was setup in the MRI machine. It was intended to be an axial image set with ~0.35 mm x ~0.35 mm in plane resolution and 3 mm image thickness (no gap).

Sequence name: pd_tse_cor_p2_384 Plane: Axial FOV (mm): 180 x 75% --> 180 x 135 x 135 Slice thickness/gap (mm/mm): 3/0 TR (ms): 13000 TE (ms): 10 # of slices: 70 Flip angle (deg.): 90 Bandwidth (Hz/pixel): 222 Chemical Shift (pixels): No. excitations averaged: 1 ETL: 14 Phase encode axis: Distance factor (%): 0 Phase oversampling: Slice oversampling: 0 Phase/slice/read resolution: Slice partial Fourier: Phase partial Fourier: Readout partial Fourier: X-resolution (mm): 180/512 --> 0.3516 Scan time (min.): ~5.7

DICOM ORDER #10) MESE-TYPE TSE 2D, AXIAL (STACKED THIN SLICES):

MESE-type_TSE_3D_AXL_HEADER_03.04.14.txt

Series Description: pd_tse_cor_p2_384

Sequence Name: *tse3d1_14

Resolution: 0.3516 x 0.3516 x 0.7 mm

MESE-type_TSE_3D_AXL_03.04.14.png

Notes from Imaging Session

This imaging sequence corresponded to Scan 9 of the whole protocol as it was setup in the MRI machine. It was intended to be a It was intended to be a stacked set of axial image acquisitions with ~0.35 mm x ~0.35 mm in plane resolution and 0.7 mm image thickness (no gap).

Sequence name: pd_tse_cor_p2_384 Plane: Axial FOV (mm): 180 x 75% --> 180 x 135 x 135 Slice thickness/gap (mm/mm): 0.7/0 TR (ms): 1390 TE (ms): 14 # of slices: 36 (x 7) Flip angle (deg.): 90 Bandwidth (Hz/pixel): 222 Chemical Shift (pixels): No. excitations averaged: 1 ETL: 14 Phase encode axis: Distance factor (%): 0 Phase oversampling: Slice oversampling: 0 Phase/slice/read resolution: Slice partial Fourier: Phase partial Fourier: Readout partial Fourier: X-resolution (mm): 180/512 --> 0.3516 Scan time (min.): ~23 min

Discussion

-- aerdemir 2014-03-10 12:26:15 Based on the results above, should our specimen imaging trial include

  1. T1-ISO WITHOUT FAT SUPPRESSION: (0.5 mm x 0.5 mm x 0.5 mm) for overall imaging of the knee including registration markers.
  2. T1 VIBE (DESS-LIKE CONTRAST AND RESOLUTION): (0.341 mm x 0.341 mm x 0.7 mm slice thickness no gap: sagittal plane) for reconstruction of bone and cartilage. This may be helpful to reconstruct cruciate ligaments and menisci.
  3. MESE-TYPE TSE 2D: (0.341 mm x 0.341 mm x 2 mm slice thickness no gap (or 1mm slice thickness with 2 mm gap) - multi plane: sagittal, coronal, and axial) for reconstruction of ligaments, tendons, and menisci. We may need to run another test trial to see if we can acquire such scans with a desirable FOV and contrast.

Imaging Trial 3: February 17, 2014

Attendees: Chris, Shannon (UH); Ahmet, Craig, Snehal (CC)

The goal of this imaging trial was to conduct a full mock-up imaging of a knee specimen including:

  • an isotropic T1 weighted imaging (based on CoBi Core's previous protocols),

  • a sagittal plane DESS imaging (based on OAI protocols), and
  • an axial plane MESE imaging (based on OAI protocols).

In addition, alignment of the image sets in the MR coordinate system was elaborated upon.

Remarks during Session (Ahmet)

  • The center image location will be provided. This information may not be correct in DICOM files.
  • Support to fill-in the settings table, as in OAI manuscript, need to be provided.
  • Oblique imaging will be conducted so that image sets become orthogonal.
  • Sequence name and settings will be provided.
  • Attempted imaging
    • T1; 0.4 mm x 0.4 mm x 0.4 mm (resolution); 230 mm x 160 mm x 160 mm (fov)
      • Contrast is anticipated to look like SEQUENCE 1: T1-ISO (see above).
    • DESE (sagittal plane); 0.35 mm x 0.35 mm x 0.7 mm (resolution); 135 mm x 135 mm x 112 mm (fov)
      • Contrast is anticipated to look like this (Figure 4 of OAI protocols). Also see SEQUENCE 2: DESS-APPROX (see above).

    • MESE (axial plane); 0.30 mm x 0.30 mm x 2.0 mm (resolution); 120 mm x 120 mm x 180 mm (fov); 3 different T2 settings
      • Contrast is anticipated to look like this (Figure 8 of OAI protocols, note that OAI protocols are sagittal).

      • Thickness and fov are at the bound of the capabilities of the imaging system.
      • Scan times are long, ~36 min.
  • For larger knees out of plane resolution may need to be increased to accommodate increased fov requirement. This can also be compensated by additional scan time while trying to keep desirable resolution.
  • Images of higher resolution can be filtered. Number of excitations can be increased at the cost of scan time.

Remarks from UH (Shannon)

Image sequences of mock-up trial of February 17, 2014:

  1. Fast 3Plane Loc (this is our rough scan to just get an idea of the location of the leg in each plane)
    • voxel size: 2.3*2.3*5.0mm
    • slice thickness: 0.5mm
    • 1 slice, every different plane
  2. Arc T1 axial (actually sagittal)
    • voxel size: 1.2*1.2*1.6mm
    • slice thickness: 1.6mm
    • 50 slices
  3. t1_F13d_sag_P2_iso_0.4_we
    • voxel size: 0.4 * 0.4 * 0.4mm
    • slice thickness: 0.40mm
    • position: L5.1, A 37.0, H10.2
    • 320 slices/slab (1 slab)
  4. dess_3dsag_we
    • voxel size: 0.4*0.4*0.7mm
    • slice thickness: 0.70mm
    • position: L5.1, A34.8, H21.3
    • 160 slices/slab (1 slab)
  5. tse_te20-40-60_300um (this is your MSME)
    • voxel size: 0.3*0.3*2mm
    • slice thickness: 2mm
    • position: L1.5, A38.5, H11.5
    • 90 slices

Results

Scan 3: T1-ISO

T1_iso_HEADER.txt

Axial:

T1_iso_axl_02.17.14.png

Sagittal:

T1_iso_sagl_02.17.14.png

Coronal:

T1_iso_cor_02.17.14.png

Scan 4: DESS

DESS_iso_HEADER.txt

DESS_sag_02.17.14.png

Scan 5: MESE

MESE_iso_HEADER.txt

MESE_axl_02.17.14.png

Imaging Trial 2: January 29, 2014

Imaging Trial 1: November 14, 2013

-- hallorj 2013-11-05 15:11:02 An imaging test session is setup for November 14, 2013 from 1-2:30 pm. Myself and/or Snehal will attend. The BioRobotics Core can provide a knee specimen. If the specimen is currently a whole leg, we'll need to prepare it for imaging. Thawing will have to occur the day before. During the test session, we will look at the metal artifact issue (bring the brass mounting plugs) and image acquisition settings will be tested. I envision starting from the T1 weighted settings we currently use and adding one of the above T2 acquisitions. The T2 set should focus on cartilage while the T1 should be good for the other soft-tissues (ligaments, tendon, meniscus). An email will be sent to Dr. Carl Winalski (a radiologist and member of the advisory board) for feedback on the settings.

Results from imaging testing session conducted on November 14, 2013.

Machine: Siemens MAGNETOM Skyra 3T, Clinical

Receiver Coil: knee coil

Scan 4 (Sequence 1):

cor_t2_iso.png

Scan 5 (Sequence 2): DESS-APPROX

cor_3dDESS.png sag_3dDESS.png

  • Coronal and sagittal image samples showing articular cartilage and PCL respectively

Scan 7 (Sequence 3): BRASS ARTIFACTS

  • Evaluation of image artefacts caused by brass components of marker fixture.
    • Marker components and a piece of delrin were taped to a piece of paper and placed on the MRI phantom.
    • Bottom right shadow in the image below is resulted from a piece of delrin. Rest of the artefacts are due to brass components.

phantoms.png

Hargreaves, Brian A, Pauline W Worters, Kim Butts Pauly, John M Pauly, Kevin M Koch, and Garry E Gold. “Metal-induced artifacts in MRI.” AJR. American journal of roentgenology 197, no. 3 (September 2011): 547–555. doi:10.2214/AJR.11.7364. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21862795

-- aerdemir 2014-02-24 12:19:34 For each imaging sequence, provide a sample image and the DICOM header as a text file.

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