Thank you, James. We appreciate you joining the discussion. Before responding, let me summarize observations made in “CPMS's Interest in Workflows 19Oct15”. At this stage, we simply seek a collection of real, yet somewhat polished, idealized workflows that are sufficiently fine grain to bring workfl...

Lealem,

Re: uploading to the CPMS Glossary wiki page. Yes. I have added that task to my to-do list.

Regards
-Tony-

Lealem, Thanks for pushing the discussion about conceptual model definition. It forced me to realize that my working definition was not well-formed. So, I sought input, commentary and suggestions from colleagues. The outcome is that we are adding the following two new draft definitions to our glossa...

Lealem, Regarding your 10/20 conceptual model statement: I don’t find the cited glossary definition to be very helpful. The phrase “validation experiments” implies that the theory about how the phenomena of interest are generated is relatively mature, and has survived multiple scientific falsificati...

Ahmet, you identify good points. I’ll be interested in what different MSM Working Group members have to say. Where diversity exists, we want to identify and understand it. About your “ Two paths on determining workflows :” For now, I am most interested in a project’s initial and actual workflows (an...

Hypothesis : the diversity of questionnaire rankings is a result of different responders focusing more on those portions of an overall workflow on which they have been focused or with which they have more experience. Suppose that we have a set of six different example workflow documents (the curren...

I concur with David Eckmann.

If the decision is Option One, then I suggest including a statement (somewhere) that says something like, "the charge does not extend to technologies because…"

I urge you to accept these results as a draft and let this information flow and merge with the other teams. Recall that this is a draft that we will discuss at the MSM meeting - not our final set. ... I hope you find this summary/ranking objective enough - at least for now. I accept, Barhak. I real...

... I don’t know if I would call it “falsification trumps validation” ... Joy, let me expand on why I say that. Envision a two-circle Venn diagram: a small circle (A) overlapping a much larger circle (B). Let A represent the "phenotype"of a multi-attribute, MSM, and B represent the corresponding ph...

Joy, about your 9/20 posting, I'd like to explain why I have a problem with your 4th rule or guideline ["developing and documenting with the end user in mind"] within our specified context: "stakeholders within the (biomedical) M&S community." For me, the phrase "end user" implies a M&S product (a p...