RE: Annular cylinder simulation

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Hoon Choi
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RE: Annular cylinder simulation

Post by Hoon Choi » Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:58 pm

Hi all,
I'm trying to simulate flow inside a cylinder with a hollowed-out core (annular cylinder).
Effectively, it will be a donut-shaped cross-sectional area flowing down a cylinder. A cylinder with a smaller cylinder subtracted?

Thank you!

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Re: RE: Annular cylinder simulation

Post by Justin Tran » Fri Oct 27, 2017 3:31 pm

Hi Hoon,

Thank you for your question, and sorry for the delayed response. Currently, there is not an easy way to make an annulus geometry in SimVascular, since SimVascular fills in the segmentations by default. We recommend using another software to construct your annular cylinder, then saving that as a VTK format file. SimVascular can then load in this VTK file to use for simulations.

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Re: RE: Annular cylinder simulation

Post by Hoon Choi » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:48 am

Thank you Justin!
What software would you recommend?

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Re: RE: Annular cylinder simulation

Post by Justin Tran » Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:37 am

If you have SolidWorks, I think it would not be too hard to create an annular cylinder and export the model as an .stl that you can load into SimVascular. I think there are also free CAD software like AutoDesk Inventor (this is the one I used for my CAD class 7 years ago... not sure if it is still free).

You can also try using Boolean operators in VTK if you are familiar with using it. An example on how to use Boolean difference operators can be found on this page: https://www.vtk.org/Wiki/VTK/Examples/P ... it/Boolean.

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Re: RE: Annular cylinder simulation

Post by Hoon Choi » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:50 pm

Thank you Justin. I will try. Would it be okay if I contacted you if I had problems?

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Re: RE: Annular cylinder simulation

Post by Justin Tran » Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:04 am

Of course! I have not personally tried making an annular cylinder and it has been a few years since I have touched a CAD program, but I am happy to help in any way that I can.

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Re: RE: Annular cylinder simulation

Post by Hoon Choi » Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:18 pm

Hi Justin,

I am doing patient specific modeling of cervical spine from MRI.
I used VolView, imported into SimVascular for path planning, segmentation, and mesh generation, and exported into STL. STL was then uploaded into Autodesk FUsion 360 for combine+subtract between two bodies, but I'm having problems. It appears that I first have to convert fro mesh to T spline in order to perform "Combine" and "subtract" or "Cut/cavity".
This is the message I got:

"This body contains a high percentage of triangles or n-sided polygons. Converting will result in a T-spline body that will not edit well and have poor performance.
For conversion to a T-spline body the mesh should consist primarily of four sided faces.

Mesh surface content:
Quads = 0
Triangles = 17212
Polygons = 0

Conversion has been aborted."

How do I get around this?
Thank you for your help.

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Re: RE: Annular cylinder simulation

Post by Adam Updegrove » Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:05 pm

Hi Hoon Choi,

I just responded to this here:

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Thanks!

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