Rectus femors of a model is displayed differently in Opensim 3.3 and 4.1

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Will Bosch-Vuononen
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Rectus femors of a model is displayed differently in Opensim 3.3 and 4.1

Post by Will Bosch-Vuononen » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:57 pm

Hello,

I have been modifying a model in order to return better predictions of the knee contact forces. I have started the modifications in Opensim 4.1 but recently changed to Opensim 3.3 because the rectus femoris behaves as expected in 3.3 but in 4.1 the visualization is quite odd (see pictures attached). Please note that both models have the same wrapping surfaces and the attachment points of the muscle were not altered (neither extra ones were added). Would there be an explanation for such difference in the visualization for the same model in different versions of OpenSim?
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Thomas Uchida
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Re: Rectus femors of a model is displayed differently in Opensim 3.3 and 4.1

Post by Thomas Uchida » Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:30 am

There was a visualization bug in 4.0; this may be related. You might try plotting the muscle moment arms to see whether the issue is strictly visualization or whether the muscle path is being computed incorrectly.

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Re: Rectus femors of a model is displayed differently in Opensim 3.3 and 4.1

Post by Will Bosch-Vuononen » Tue Sep 29, 2020 2:39 am

Hello,

thank you for your reply! When plotted, the moment arms and muscle tendon lengths are the same for both versions. I just wonder now whether the problem is strictly visualization...

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Re: Rectus femors of a model is displayed differently in Opensim 3.3 and 4.1

Post by Ayman Habib » Tue Sep 29, 2020 11:28 am

Hello,

Yes, the problem is strictly visualization, some corner case(s) that could be related to the current pose, how you defined the path-wrapping and the type of wrapping objects. If you can provide a minimal model and describe how to reproduce that would be great.

Thanks for reporting,
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Re: Rectus femors of a model is displayed differently in Opensim 3.3 and 4.1

Post by Will Bosch-Vuononen » Thu Oct 01, 2020 6:59 am

Thank you for the clarification! This doubt had been pending for some weeks... I will contact you.

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Re: Rectus femors of a model is displayed differently in Opensim 3.3 and 4.1

Post by Will Bosch-Vuononen » Fri Oct 02, 2020 3:48 am

Hello,

here is the simplified model, in 3.3 and 4.1 version.
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