optimal force in RRA

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Bruno Zaffaina
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optimal force in RRA

Post by Bruno Zaffaina » Mon Feb 21, 2011 6:53 am

How can I choose the optimal forces during RRA?
for: FX, FY, FZ, MX, MY, MZ and all coordinates (like in the file gait2354_RRA_Actuators.xml).

I'm doing a gait simulation...
Thanks to all for the answers

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Ayman Habib
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RE: optimal force in RRA

Post by Ayman Habib » Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:16 pm

Hi Bruno,

I'd suggest running InverseDynamics analysis to find out what Forces/Torques are needed and use the maximum as optimal force to account for unactuated/under-actuated degrees of freedom.

Hope this helps,
-Ayman

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Bruno Zaffaina
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RE: optimal force in RRA

Post by Bruno Zaffaina » Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:25 am

ok, from InverseDynamic I have these results:
(max absolute values)
pelvis_tilt_moment= 22.96
pelvis_list_moment= 28.5
pelvis_rotation_moment= 6.73
pelvis_tx_force= 33.29
pelvis_ty_force= 96.15
pelvis_tz_force= 49.29
hip_flexion_r_moment= 47.43
hip_adduction_r_moment= 12.53
hip_rotation_r_moment= 3.4
knee_angle_r_moment= 30.88
ankle_angle_r_moment= 2.87
subtalar_angle_r_moment= 0.64
hip_flexion_l_moment= 51
hip_adduction_l_moment= 51.58
hip_rotation_l_moment= 10.72
knee_angle_l_moment= 43.35
ankle_angle_l_moment= 100.92
subtalar_angle_l_moment= 6.91
lumbar_extension_moment= 10.77
lumbar_bending_moment= 16.15
lumbar_rotation_moment= 5.82
Now for you, what are the values of residuals (FX, FY, FZ, MX, MY, MZ) to choose?

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Sam Hamner
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RE: optimal force in RRA

Post by Sam Hamner » Sun Feb 27, 2011 1:54 pm

Hi Bruno,

As Ayman suggested, you will use these results to choose the optimal forces for the residuals actuators in RRA (i.e., FX, FY, FZ, MX, MY, MZ). But what is not clear is that these are named differently in the Inverse Dynamics solution. For example, pelvis_tx_force corresponds to FX.

pelvis_tx_force ==> FX
pelvis_ty_force ==> FY
pelvis_tz_force ==> FZ
pelvis_tilt_moment ==> MZ
pelvis_list_moment ==> MX
pelvis_rotation_moment ==> MY

So try setting the optimal force for the residual actuators in the actuators file equal or greater than the corresponding max from inverse dynamics.

Hope this helps.

Best,
Sam

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