Behaviour of JointReaction analysis with zero muscle forces
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:53 pm
Hi everyone,
I am trying to calculate the intersegmental forces[1] at the ankle joint. I would expect that to work fine by using JointReaction analysis and setting all the muscle forces equal to zero. However it does not seem the case.
As test data I have used this example from Matt DeMers and the only modification I've done was setting to zero all the muscle forces.
Looking at the results there is something not fully convincing, as I would expect the intersegmental forces at the ankle to resemble the ground reaction forces. I am aware of the fact that they are in two different reference systems, but the norm of the two vector is quite different anyway.
Given this difference, I have tried to calculate the intersegmental forces adding translational joint at the ankle and using ID. In this way I should get the external forces that are applied at the ankle joint to satisfy the system dynamics. My understanding is that this will be reported to the reference system of the parent, but I am not totally sure. However, this should correspond, apart from the sign, to the intersegmental forces at the ankle reported in the tibia reference system, and they look like this, pretty different from the result of the joint reaction.
As a final test I tried to verify the equation Fr = Fi + sum(Fm), where Fr is the contact force (i.e. considering the effect of muscles), Fi is the intersegmental force, and sum(Fm) is the vectorial sum of muscle forces applied to the bodies that are children of the ankle joint. For this analysis I have used muscle forces calculated through static optimisation for both Fr and sum(Fm). The static optimisation setup was the same setup provided in the Matt's example. As a result, the equation was satisfied only with Fi calculated with ID.
So, now my question: what is going on here? Am I missing something critical or JointReaction does not work correctly when muscle forces are set to zero?
Cheers
Claudio
[1] - Zajac, F.E., Neptune, R.R., Kautz, S.A., 2002. Biomechanics and muscle coordination of human walking. Part I: introduction to concepts, power transfer, dynamics and simulations. Gait & posture 16, 215-232.
I am trying to calculate the intersegmental forces[1] at the ankle joint. I would expect that to work fine by using JointReaction analysis and setting all the muscle forces equal to zero. However it does not seem the case.
As test data I have used this example from Matt DeMers and the only modification I've done was setting to zero all the muscle forces.
Looking at the results there is something not fully convincing, as I would expect the intersegmental forces at the ankle to resemble the ground reaction forces. I am aware of the fact that they are in two different reference systems, but the norm of the two vector is quite different anyway.
Given this difference, I have tried to calculate the intersegmental forces adding translational joint at the ankle and using ID. In this way I should get the external forces that are applied at the ankle joint to satisfy the system dynamics. My understanding is that this will be reported to the reference system of the parent, but I am not totally sure. However, this should correspond, apart from the sign, to the intersegmental forces at the ankle reported in the tibia reference system, and they look like this, pretty different from the result of the joint reaction.
As a final test I tried to verify the equation Fr = Fi + sum(Fm), where Fr is the contact force (i.e. considering the effect of muscles), Fi is the intersegmental force, and sum(Fm) is the vectorial sum of muscle forces applied to the bodies that are children of the ankle joint. For this analysis I have used muscle forces calculated through static optimisation for both Fr and sum(Fm). The static optimisation setup was the same setup provided in the Matt's example. As a result, the equation was satisfied only with Fi calculated with ID.
So, now my question: what is going on here? Am I missing something critical or JointReaction does not work correctly when muscle forces are set to zero?
Cheers
Claudio
[1] - Zajac, F.E., Neptune, R.R., Kautz, S.A., 2002. Biomechanics and muscle coordination of human walking. Part I: introduction to concepts, power transfer, dynamics and simulations. Gait & posture 16, 215-232.